John Winnett c.1745-1811
from Turvey, David. The Winnett Family. 1974 p. 100
John and Sarah are apparently the oldest Winnetts to be listed in the Killaloe records, Anne was born to them in 1784. If we assume that Richard (1776/86 - 1849) was also a son of John, then I theorize that John's birthdate would have been about 1750. Until research is carried out in Ireland, I have no further information at the moment, except that he was buried in Killaloe on Jan. 2, 1811. (updated June 05 from research by Andrew Winnett)
Spouse: Sarah Ellis Married ca. 1766 in Ireland.
Children and grandchildren:
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Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849); 12 grandchildren
Anne Winnett (2) (1784 - 1849)
Richard Winnett, b. ca. 1776 in Ireland, d. 16 April 1849 in Killaloe, Ireland, cause of death cholera
Father: John Winnett (ca. 1745 - )
Mother: Sarah Ellis
Spouse: Ellenor Worrall Married ca. 1804 in Killaloe, Clare, Ireland.
Children and grandchildren:
Rachael Winnett (no information)
William Winnett (2) (probably died as a child)
John Winnett (2) (1805 - 1881)
Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870); 10 grandchildren
Anne Winnett (1811 - 1886); 3 grandchildren
Richard Winnett (2) (1813 - ); 1 grandchild
Henry Winnett (1814 - 1903); 3 grandchildren
William Winnett (ca. 1820 - ); 1 grandchild
Joseph Winnett (1822 - 1889)
Edward Winnett (1824 - 1904)
James Winnett (1826 - 1834)
Eliza Winnett (ca. 1829 - )
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John Winnett (2), 1805-18
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall had 11 children
Spouse: Susanna Gordon
from Turvey, David. The Winnett Family. 1974
This John was the oldest son of Richard and Ellenor Winnett, born in Killaloe on Aug 29, 1805. He married Susanna(h) Gordon of Limerick possibly in Limerick. Nine or ten children were born in Killaloe prior to emigration to London, Ontario in 1847. Two more children were born in Canada.
The first years must have been difficult for the large family. Even the 1861 Census indicates that three married couples were living in the same 2 storey house. The eldest son, Richard, seems to have had some mental and physical defects which meant that he continued to live with his parents until his death. Thomas, the next eldest was the Market Weight Clerk and lived with his wife in his parents, home. Eliza, a younger daughter, had married James Anglin of Hamilton, but they lived with John and Susanna(h) until Eliza's death on June 17, 1863 of disease of the heart. A newspaper announcement of her death appeared in the London Free Press June 18, 1863, p.2
Though John's son John the carriage maker is listed in the London city directory for 1856-7, John the elder does not appear until 1863-4 when he working as a lumber merchant on York St. between Richmond and Clarence. His house was on the corner of Grey and Colbourne. In 1870 his son William Henry became a partner with his father in the business, and four years later took over the ownership when John retired. John continued to live at 411 Grey until his death from old age on July 27, 1881. He was buried in Mount Pleasant Cemetery, London
His wife Susanna(h) and son Richard continued to live at home until about 1890, when they moved to Toronto to be near Susanna(h)'s daughter Mrs. Beattie. When she died, the London Free Press, Sat. June 15, 1895 p.1, had the following notice:
At 546 Spadina avenue, Toronto, at the residence of her daughter Mrs. Beattie, on June 14th, Susannah, widow of the late John Winnett of this city aged 85 years. Funeral from G.T.R. Station on arrival of 2.05 pm train today. Friends will please accept this intimation.
Compiled Jan. 25, 1975. See 1861 Census. Ontario, London city, 3rd ward, 5th Dist, p.12; 1871 Census. Ontario, London city, Ward 5, p.99.
Children and grandchildren:
Eliza Winnett (2) d. 17 June 1863, cause of death Heart disease (married James Anglin)
Richard Winnett (3) Richard seems to have had some mental and physical defects which meant he lived at home.
Thomas Winnett b. 18 January 1830 in Killaloe, Ireland, was a market weight clerk who lived in his parent's home with his wife Anne Elizabeth. He attained the rank High Priest with the Masons; St John's Chapter
John Edward Winnett (1836 - 1923); 2 grandchildren
Charles Winnett b. 1851 in London, Ontario
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John Edward Winnett (1836-1923) b. 27 March 1836 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 23 May 1923 in Toronto, Ontario. He was buried in the same plot at St. James Cemetery, Toronto as his Aunt Sarah and William Loane.
Father: John Winnett (2) (1805 - 1881)
Mother: Susanna Gordon
Spouse: Elizabeth "Eliza" B. Loane, b. 1838 in Ireland, d. 1915 in Toronto, Ontario
Married 1859 in Toronto, Ontario.
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
from Turvey, David. The Winnett Family. 1974
Children and grandchildren:
William John Winnett ( 1860 )
Lizzie Winnett (ca. 1868 - )
from Turvey, David. The Winnett Family. 1974
John Edward was baptized in Killaloe on Mar. 27,1836 so he was probably born just shortly before that date. His parents were John and Susanna(h) (Gordon) Winnett. The family emigrated to London, Ont. in 1847, and John Edward was first listed as a carriage maker with William McBride's shop on Fullerton St. in the 1856-7 London city directories. He was living in a house on William St.
John Edward married Elizabeth Loane in St. James Cathedral, Toronto. She was a first cousin. The 1861 Census, London 3rd Ward, 5th District, listed him as a carriage maker, born 1836 in Ireland, married to Elizabeth, born 1838 in Ireland, with a son William John, born 1860 in London. John Edward and family were Wesleyan Methodist, living in a one-storey, one family, part frame and part brick house.
After a couple of further listings in London, he moved to Toronto to be listed as a mechanic living on Conc.1, Lot 6h, York West mp., in the 1866 Toronto city directory? By 1871 he was certainly there in Toronto as a carriage maker living at 146 King St. E. Then in the next succession of years the family lived at 567 Adelaide W., 9 Power, 70 Adelaide, and back to 9 Power. By 1883 he was working for William Dixon as a carriage maker or woodworker, at their shop 53-5 Adelaide W.
Between 1885 and 1889 he was living at 297 Berkeley, and in 1891 was a foreman at Wm. Dixon, while living at 329 Berkeley. By 1895 he went to work for James Ewart, and in 1897 with Sullivan carriage works, but 1899 saw him back with Ewart after the preceding year with Hunter & Blackwell. The fireman listing with Ewart's in 1901 is probably a typographical error for foreman; age & instability probably affected his work during this whole period, because yet again, in 1903 he has changed to Vokes and McCurrah, and finally in 1906 he was working with his son at Doherty and Winnett. John Edward probably retired about 1910, and his wife died late in 1915. He was no longer listed in the 1921 Toronto directory but died on May 23, 1923.
Compiled Mar. 31, 1974. See 1861 Census, Ontario London city, Ward 3, Dist. 5, p.4.
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Sarah Winnett, b. ca. 1809 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 14 November 1870 in Toronto, Ontario (cause of death "Inflammation of lungs")
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
Sarah and William were the first of the Winnetts to leave Ireland. While most Irish people were leaving to escape the civil uprisings of 1845, the Winnetts seem to have been property owners. They may have been subject to religious intolerance since they were part of a small Protestant minority living in Killaloe.
They arrived in Canada between May 1845 and Feb 1847 and settled near Toronto by August 1846. William bought a farm (Lot 6 Conc 2 York Township) Woodbine area near Norway. He established himself as a shoemaker.
Daughter Elizabeth married her cousin John E. Winnett.
Spouse: William Loane, b. 1806 in Cork, County Cork, Ireland, d. 19 May 1898 in Toronto, Ontario, cause of death old age
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Elizabeth "Eliza" B. Loane, b. 1838 in Ireland, d. 1915 in Toronto, Ontario
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
Spouse: John Edward Winnett, b. 27 March 1836 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 23 May 1923 in Toronto, Ontario
Father: John Winnett (2) (1805 - )
Mother: Susanna Gordon ( - )
buried St. James Cemetery, Toronto (same spot as Sarah and William) In the 1871 census, John was age 34, a carriagemaker living St. James Ward, Toronto. Wesleyan Methodist
Married 1859 in Toronto, Ontario.
Children and grandchildren:
William John Winnett ( - )
Lizzie Winnett (ca. 1868 - )
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Ellen Loane, b. 24 January 1838 in Limerick, Ireland, d. 7 May 1924
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
Buried in Smith plot, lot 33, block 34
Ellen's obituary says she died at age 92 which does not agree with gravestone. Also confusion over her birth date. Graveyard info from Judy suggests she and James had same birthday, but Carolyn Pelletier history suggest one given here. 1861 census agrees with graveyard. Ellen apprenticed as a boot and shoemaker.
Spouse: James Smith (2), b. 24 January 1838 in Toronto, Ontario, d. 4 February 1910
Father: Thomas Smith ( - )
Mother: Eliza James ( - )
After 1872 the family moved to Barrie where their last two children were born. In 1879, they moved to Emerson, Manitoba where James brother, Richard, had a job with the railway. James and Ellen managed the Manchester House in Emerson during 1887-88-89 before taking the farm at Ridgeville.
Married 16 October 1862 in Trinity Anglican, East Toronto.
Children and grandchildren:
Sarah Jane Eliza Smith (1865 - 1943)
Thomas William Smith (1867 - 1946); 8 grandchildren
William Smith (1869 - )
James Smith (1872 - 1942); 7 grandchildren
Ella (Ellen) Alice Smith (1874 - ); 4 grandchildren
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Catherine Loane , b. ca. 1842 in Ireland, d. 15 April 1934 in Scarborough, Ontario
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
Both Catherine and Archibald are buried at St. Andrews Presbyterian (Bendale) Scarborough, section 27.14. Catherine's tombstone says that she died at age 92; Archibalds says 42 years & 4 months - he died July 3, 1888.
In the 1871 census, Archibald appears as age 26, farmer, Scarborough, Scottish ancestry, Presbyterian.
Spouse: Archibald Muir, b. ca. 1846 in Ireland, d. 3 July 1888
Mother: Catherine (Muir) ( - )
Both Catherine and Archibald are buried at St. Andrews Presbyterian (Bendale) Scarborough, section 27.14. Catherine's tombstone says that she died at age 92; Archibalds says 42 years & 4 months - he died July 3, 1888.
In the 1871 census, Archibald appears as age 26, farmer, Scarborough, Scottish ancestry, Presbyterian.
Married.
Children and grandchildren:
Archibald Muir (2) (1870 - ); 2 grandchildren
Sarah Muir (1873 - ); 2 grandchildren
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Edward Loane, b. ca. 1845 in Ireland, d. 28 June 1870 in Toronto, Ontario, cause of death Piles
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
Spouse: Mary Jane Lemon
Father: James Lemon ( - )
Mother: Eleanor ( - )
The first record of this family is in the 1871, census, where Mary Jane is a widow working as a laundress in St. Johns Ward, Toronto. In1879 (March 1) Mary Jane remarried - to John Storey. The witnesses at this 2nd wedding were John Parkinson & Mary Ann Dunwiddie.
Married.
William E. Loane (ca. 1867 - )
Maude Loane (ca. 1870 - )
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Sarah Loane, b. ca. 1847 in Toronto, Ontario
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
She was born during the year of family emigrating from Ireland. Could have been 1846.
She married ANDREW GILCHRIST May 24, 1873 in Toronto, son of ROBERT and AGNES GILCHRIST. The witnesses at this wedding were Maud Mary Loane of Norway (Toronto), Ontario and William Elliott of Scarborough. Prior to her marriage (1871 census) Sarah was living with her sister Maud Mary at the Smith residence. Andrew Gilchrist (a carpenter) died prior to 1891 and in 1893 Sarah and her sons moved to Emerson Manitoba where they homesteaded on NW 1/4 of 12-1-4. The land was turned written over to them by William Smith.
Spouse: Andrew Gilchrist (2)
Father: Robert Gilchrist ( - )
Mother: Agnes (Gilchrist) ( - )
Children and grandchildren:
Robert William Gilchrist (1874 - 1960); 9 grandchildren
Andrew Gilchrist (1876 - 1971); 4 grandchildren
Jack Gilchrist (ca. 1879 - )
Sarah Gilchrist (1880 - bef. 1891)
James Gilchrist (ca. 1888 - )
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John Loane, b. March 1847 in Toronto, Ontario, d. 4 May 1847 in Toronto, Ontario, (cause of death Decay)
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
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Maude Mary Loane, b. 1849 in Ontario
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
Anglican Church. She is in the 1871 census, living with James & Ellen (Loane) Smith at Norway, East Toronto.
Spouse: William Henry Elliott
Father: William Elliott ( - )
Mother: Margaret Eveans ( - )
Married 1874 in Ontario.
Children and grandchildren:
Jackie Elliott ( - )
William Henry Elliott (2) (1875 - 1890)
Mary Maude Elliott (1876 - 1965)
Edith Elliott (1878 - 1878)
Ivy Laurel Elliott (1880 - 1880)
Henry (Harry) Edward Elliott (1881 - 1964)
Ruby Elliott (1884 - 1974)
Golda Elata (Tady) Elliott (1885 - 1974)
Linaria Victoria Elliott (1887 - )
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S. Anne Loane, b. 1849 in Toronto, Ontario, d. 26 May 1888 in Toronto, Ontario
Father: William Loane (1806 - 1898)
Mother: Sarah Winnett (ca. 1809 - 1870)
In the 1871 census:
* dressmaker
*Wesleyan Methodist
* Ann was living with sister Elizabeth and her husband John E Winnett. She died of phthisis with 'Halsucholea?', which she'd had 4 or 5 months
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Anne Winnett, b. 1 January 1811 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 21 July 1886 in London, Ontario
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
confirmed in St. Flannan's Church with sister Sarah in September 1827.
Spouse: Edward Winder
Married 3 June 1842 in Killaloe, Ireland.
Children and grandchildren:
Sarah Anne Winder (1843 - )
Henry Winder (1845 - )
Edward Winnett (2) (1849 - )
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Sarah Anne Winder, b. April 1843 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Edward Winder ( - )
Mother: Anne Winnett (1811 - 1886)
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Henry Winder, b. 13 April 1845 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Edward Winder ( - )
Mother: Anne Winnett (1811 - 1886)
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Edward Winder (2), b. 8 September 1849 in London, Ontario
Father: Edward Winder ( - )
Mother: Anne Winnett (1811 - 1886)
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Richard Winnett (2), b. 26 March 1813 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
Spouse: Jane Berry
Married 1853 in Ireland.
Children and grandchildren:
Walter John Winnett (1859 - 1943)
Walter John Winnett, b. 17 March 1859 in Toronto, Ontario, d. August 1943 in Winnett, Montana
Father: Richard Winnett (2) (1813 - )
Mother: Jane Berry ( - )
Founder of the town of Winnett, Montana
Spouse: Margaret 'Molly' Jenkins
Married.
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Henry Winnett, b. 5 May 1814 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 5 December 1903 in London, Ontario
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
Boiler maker in London, Ontario. Brother, William, was also listed as a boiler maker in Killaloe records.
Spouse: Ellen North
Married 9 June 1842 in Killaloe, Ireland.
Children and grandchildren:
Henry Winnett (2) b. 17 January 1846 in Killaloe, Ireland
John William Winnett (1853 - )
Thomas Winnett (2) (1859 - )
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Henry Winnett (2), b. 17 January 1846 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Henry Winnett (1814 - 1903)
Mother: Ellen North ( - )
One story about Henry which should be worked in prior to his partnership in 1874, appeared in the London Advertiser July 9, 1927, p.4: Henry Winnett, named for his father Henry Winnett, the boilermaker, died a millionaire, and one of the best known hotelmen on the continent. He started life as a bellboy in the Techumseh (sic) House, became clerk and bookkeeper there, and one day made a large amount of money by buying up all the bills of a bank that had failed, at very low prices. They were afterwards redeemed at par, and for a few hundred dollars young Winnett found himself in possession of about $15,000. Later he went to Toronto, became associated with the Queens Botel, and subsequently bought it. He also bought the Tecumseh House here and his estate still owns it. Mr. Winnett also had a large hotel at Niagara Falls.
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John William Winnett, b. 7 October 1853 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Henry Winnett (1814 - 1903)
Mother: Ellen North ( - )
moved to Winnipeg approximately 1876 and lived there 15 years.
Spouse: Lydia Ann Roe
Married 17 May 1876 in London, Ontario.
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Thomas Winnett (2), b. 3 September 1859 in London, Ontario
Father: Henry Winnett (1814 - 1903)
Mother: Ellen North ( - )
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William Winnett, b. ca. 1820 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
younger than Henry; listed as a boiler maker in the Killaloe records.
Spouse: Fannie Winder
Married 10 May 1847 in Killaloe, Ireland.
Children and grandchildren:
Henrietta Winnett (1848 - )
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Joseph Winnett, b. 1822 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 7 January 1889 in Merrigum, Australia
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
Travelled to Australia where he farmed for forty years.
Spouse: Jane Bowles
Married 12 September 1849 in Killaloe, Ireland.
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Edward Winnett, b. 25 March 1824 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 16 September 1904 in London, Ontario, cause of death heart failure
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
Spouse: Isabella H. Godfrey
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James Winnett, b. 17 December 1826 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 1834 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
Died in childhood.
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Eliza Winnett, b. ca. June 1829 in Killaloe, Ireland
Father: Richard Winnett (ca. 1776 - 1849)
Mother: Ellenor Worrall ( - )
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Anne Winnett (2), b. 1784 in Killaloe, Ireland, d. 17 April 1849 in Killaloe, Ireland, cause of death cholera
Father: John Winnett (ca. 1750 - )
Mother: Sarah (Winnett) ( - )
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The Winnett Name
The following excerpts are from a history of the Winnett family compiled and privately published by David George Winnett Turvey in 1974. Publishing information:
Seven genealogies of Winnett families in Canada, Australia, the United States, England, and Ireland compiled and edited by David George Winnett Turvey, with Parts 2, 5, and 6 compiled by Graham Stanley Winnett and William Henry Winnett. Sydney, Nova Scotia, 1974.
Part 1: Winnetts, Woarralls, Winders, and others; the Irish immigration from Killaloe, Co. Clare, to London, Ontario during the 1850s. A partial discussion of the name is included.
page 5
The Name
The names of Winnett itself is quite interesting. Wilson* states that it is of Celtic origin: Gwyn or Wyn signifying ‘fair’, ‘white’, or sometimes ‘blessed’, plus a diminutive form addition making the name mean ‘the little one of fair appearance;, or the child of Wyn or Gwyn’. Gwynedd was in fact, a geographical area or principality in Wales, encompassing the island of Anglesey and mose of Caernarvonshire.
Some variations of course would be Gwynett and Wynniatt. Wilson goes on to state that ‘it should not be confused with Winniett, .... a French family (probably Hugeuenot);. He says that the original French name was Ouinnette though. The similarity of Quinnette and Winnett, does not allow such flat exclusion. The Australian branch of Part 1 have in fact been working on the tradition that the family is of French Hugeuenot stock. Bill Winnett of Ensay (part 2) also mentions a Huguenot tradition to be found in his family, but the original spelling is something different again- De Vineay, a name connected with viticulture.
Since moving to Nova Scotia, I have discovered another possible source for the family. Among the German immigrants to this province c.1750, the name Whynauct appears, and variants, usually to simplify the spelling, have developed. Wynauct, Whynot, Wynot, and Winot all appear today. It is not a great stretch of the imagination to see the transformation to Winnett.
Spelling was, and still is, a notoriously haphazard discipline. Variants can come from a common source; standardization can develop from many variants. Perhaps pronunciation contributes to differences in spelling. I say Winnett with only slight accent on the first syllable. I have heard it pronounced with strong accent on the last syllable.
* Wilson, Leonard. Report to Percy Winnett on the family of Winnett. June 18, 1924.
The following excerpts are from a history of the Winnett family compiled and privately published by David George Winnett Turvey in 1974. Publishing information:
Seven genealogies of Winnett families in Canada, Australia, the United States, England, and Ireland compiled and edited by David George Winnett Turvey, with Parts 2, 5, and 6 compiled by Graham Stanley Winnett and William Henry Winnett. Sydney, Nova Scotia, 1974.
Part 1: Winnetts, Woarralls, Winders, and others; the Irish immigration from Killaloe, Co. Clare, to London, Ontario during the 1850s. A partial discussion of the name is included.
page 5
The Name
The names of Winnett itself is quite interesting. Wilson* states that it is of Celtic origin: Gwyn or Wyn signifying ‘fair’, ‘white’, or sometimes ‘blessed’, plus a diminutive form addition making the name mean ‘the little one of fair appearance;, or the child of Wyn or Gwyn’. Gwynedd was in fact, a geographical area or principality in Wales, encompassing the island of Anglesey and mose of Caernarvonshire.
Some variations of course would be Gwynett and Wynniatt. Wilson goes on to state that ‘it should not be confused with Winniett, .... a French family (probably Hugeuenot);. He says that the original French name was Ouinnette though. The similarity of Quinnette and Winnett, does not allow such flat exclusion. The Australian branch of Part 1 have in fact been working on the tradition that the family is of French Hugeuenot stock. Bill Winnett of Ensay (part 2) also mentions a Huguenot tradition to be found in his family, but the original spelling is something different again- De Vineay, a name connected with viticulture.
Since moving to Nova Scotia, I have discovered another possible source for the family. Among the German immigrants to this province c.1750, the name Whynauct appears, and variants, usually to simplify the spelling, have developed. Wynauct, Whynot, Wynot, and Winot all appear today. It is not a great stretch of the imagination to see the transformation to Winnett.
Spelling was, and still is, a notoriously haphazard discipline. Variants can come from a common source; standardization can develop from many variants. Perhaps pronunciation contributes to differences in spelling. I say Winnett with only slight accent on the first syllable. I have heard it pronounced with strong accent on the last syllable.
* Wilson, Leonard. Report to Percy Winnett on the family of Winnett. June 18, 1924.
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